Friday, May 15, 2020

Ranking Pixar: 7-1

(Editor’s note: Save for some slight editing, rephrasing and spelling/grammar, the following conversation remains largely unedited. It also contains spoilers, and-for the sake of length-has been chopped up into 3 parts.)

(Part 1 is here.)

(Part 2 is here.)

#7 time!

Moving on, my #7 pick is, reluctantly, Finding Nemo



Putting this movie at number seven is kind of gutting to me, I consider this to be some of Pixar’s best, but, as has been established, the second half of this list is some truly stiff competition. Finding Nemo is an incredible achievement in animation and storytelling, taking us on a Dante’s Inferno style journey across the ocean. This movie gives its characters and themes lots of room to breathe and the whole vibe just really, really works for me. The pacing is phenomenal too, it does a great job juggling its A and B plots, really selling us on Marlin and Nemo’s relationship despite barely showing them together on screen.

My #s 7-5 are all almost a dead tie.


I see. I actually find it interesting how in a sea of Pixar's greats, #7 for your list would take place in a literal body of water.

Yuk-yuk-yuk!

I even remember seeing a news clip on TV showing how Pixar did all their water effects. They used an empty fish tank and kept dropping other stuff in it. Considering how water is hard to animate, that's impressive.

For a movie made in 2003 to compete with movies made 17 years later in water effects is truly astounding.

Indeed. But that's why Pixar's the best at what they do.

Indeed!

My #7 spot is reserved for Toy Story 4, aka the movie no one asked for, yet surprised everyone anyway.


It's weird how people didn't think it'd work. Andy's arc may have ended in Toy Story 3, but Woody's hadn't. So not only does this movie bring back Bo Peep in an expanded role, it also manages to give Woody that closure post-Andy. And it does so with a finale that actually got me to cry for the first time in a Toy Story movie, which, by the way, wasn't even the first time the movie got me to cry as is.

I was honestly not looking forward to this movie, like, at all. I thought that Toy Story 3 ended the saga on a high note and provided closure for everyone who had grown up with the first three films. Turning Woody into an empty nester was something I don’t think many people considered, but I’m glad we saw it!

Indeed.

Can we just focus on Bo Peep for a minute? Not only is she now the best part of a Toy Story movie, even if it took over 2 decades to make that happen, but her sheep actually have names now: Billy, Goat and Gruff. It also helps that she has believable motivations for why she'd become the way she is, having been pawned off from owner to owner in the 9 years since the opening scene (speaking of, what a way to open!) She also has her own ragtag group of friends, including the always amazing Duke Caboom (who steals every scene he's in and is easily Keanu Reeves's best role ever.)

Oh, and having Key and Peele in this was also a delight.

Yeah, this movie had a delightful cast of characters. I put off watching it for a long time because I thought it would be sadder. Quite the contrary, this movie is the funniest Toy Story has ever been.

It's still pretty sad, though. I think Gabby Gabby in particular made me cry with her resolution. And Kudos to Pixar for actually going all-in with her as well.

Yeah, this movie has some pretty hard hitting consequences and a lot of...disturbing imagery, actually. Like, man, those dummies are mesmerizing to watch, but also completely haunting.

I know people are critical of Bonnie for neglecting Woody like that, but what'd we honestly expect? She's a little kid, and she's not Andy, so it makes sense that she'd turn to other toys instead. Even if they're made of craft material and a discarded spork. (Seriously, Forky brings up so many questions that I don't think the writers were prepared for.)

My only critique of this movie, which holds it down ever so slightly, is actually twofold: one, most of the side-characters from the previous film get little to do. And two, there are way too many contrivances surrounding Bo Peep's sudden reappearance and the RV managing to stay in one location for most of the film.

I think the writers are wholly aware of the implications of Forky, and they do an excellent job of playing them for laughs. The scenario, barring the craft-toy being suicidal, seemed very relatable. I agree the road trip aspect was the weakest part of the movie, though. But I’ll have more to say on this in a bit.

Fair enough.

Next?

My #6 pick is Coco, aka that movie where Disney tried to trademark a Mexican holiday.


The 2010's were rough for Pixar creatively, but Coco was a breath of fresh air in 2017. It also centres around something near and dear to my heart: passion in artistry. Miguel is a struggling musician stuck with a family who hates music, and he has to contend with that in both the living and dead worlds. He's really the backbone that makes this movie work, and he even manages to heal both sides of his family by being himself. Also, that end song? I've dealt with dementia patients before as a volunteer in a geriatric hospital, and I can confirm that music brings them back to life in ways that medicine can't.

What puts this higher than Toy Story 4 is that all the side-characters get something to do. What stops it from getting higher is how predictable a lot of its plot beats are. It's like Pixar had a brilliant idea and a brilliant world, yet forgot to actually make the foundation more interesting. The biggest casualty of this is the villain. Ignoring how Coco came out right around the time that John Lasseter was revealed to be a creep, making this movie feel slightly awkward, Ernesto de la Cruz is such an obvious twist-villain that I called it even before Miguel met him.

Still, I have to hand it to Pixar for making their first official-unofficial musical.

My #6 pick is actually Coco as well, for largely the same reasons. 



Disney trying to trademark the holiday, stealing the likeness of a real person, and John Lasseter departing make this movie a bit uncomfortable for me. In spite of all the production scandal, this film brought a lot of positive attention to a culture that’s been increasingly stigmatized in the country that made the film. I love everything about the movie’s aesthetic, Miguel and his family, and, of course, the film’s portrayal of death.

I agree that I would have liked to see more of this world we were introduced to because it feels like there’s more to see. It all seems so rich and vibrant and expansive.


Honestly, I was unaware of the stealing of likeness, though given the lawsuit with Cicely Daniher over Onward's van design, I'm not surprised.

Yeah, exactly the same deal. I have mixed feelings about Onward for that reason as well. But Onward didn’t have the benefit of “Poco Loco” being such a bop.

I much preferred "La Llorona", even though that's a real piece of Latin music. It's also interesting how "Remember Me" is a character on its own, being a song that evolves to fit the mood.

Yeah, the way Miguel’s relationship to music changes as he works through his feelings is incredibly done.

And yeah, enough praise can't be said for that tearjerker at the end.

I guess you can move on with your #5 pick.

Alright! For my #5 pick: Toy Story 3


Toy Story 3 is to Toy Story 2 as Toy Story 2 was to Toy Story. Everything Toy Story 2 left implied, its sequel expanded upon and explored. Woody’s accepted the fact that Andy will move on someday? Cool. Time for Andy to actually move on. See how well you cope now, tough guy. A toy with no child is just trash? Let’s have them almost be incinerated, holding hands as they accept that their lives are coming to an end! You know, for kids!


Oh God, that incinerator scene. I still get nightmares about that sometimes...

I didn’t see what was so scary about it until I got a bit older and realized the implications. The scary part wasn’t that they almost died, as a kid I thought “they’ll be fine,” and I was right. The scary part is that they accepted their inevitable demise.

I remember Cineplex did a 100 years of film tribute a while back, and one of the actors they got for their montage was a 7 year-old boy talking about that scene. But yeah, that's a dark, DARK movie. I'm amazed that it wasn't rated PG, as I don't think it was appropriate for anyone under the age of 10.

I have not watched it in...God, I don’t even know how long. I have to be prepared to view it. It was so hard to experience, like I said, it made me hold off on seeing Toy Story 4. 2019 was way too rough a year for me to experience that again.

I remember watching it with my Bubbie on my mom's side, and she whispered to me on several occasions, "This is too scary for children."

Especially kids who grew up with the other two films and love those characters.

Yep!

The real question is, where does Kingdom Hearts III fit in the Toy Story timeline? We know it’s before Toy Story 3, but after Toy Story 2. And it’s canon.

My #5 pick goes to Finding Nemo.


It was tough trying to put this over my #4 spot, but it lost in the end. I was 13 when this movie came out, and it still scared the shit out of me at parts. But that just made it cooler in my eyes! It's basically an odyssey predicated around losing a child, something made worse by Marlin's backstory in the opening scene. You don't get more hardcore than that.

But it's not all bitter, though. This is, without a doubt, one of Pixar's funniest films, made better by it not being entirely predicated on slapstick humour. Plus, Dory's one of the funniest creations put to film, made better by Ellen DeGeneres selling the hell out of her, and she was so good that she actually made me excited for Finding Dory. She also bounces perfectly off of Marlin.

By the way, when life gets you down, you know what you gotta do?

Sigh Keep swimming.

Just keep swimming, just keep swimming...

Like I said, I was gutted to have Finding Nemo so low on my list. Consider my previous 3 entries a near tie.

Did I mention that the movie's insanely quotable?

I used to have to watch the barracuda scene through my fingers when I was little.

I'd call you a novice, but Bruce's relapse was also pretty disturbing. I've been there, it ain't pretty!

You have a fish blood problem?

Um...yeah, let's use that to describe it. (Addiction isn't fun, people.)

Right, uh...fish are friends! Not food! So on and so forth.

My #4 pick is one you covered before, but it's The Incredibles.


This barely won out over Finding Nemo, people. BARELY.

That said, this is easily my favourite Brad Bird film, and arguably my second-favourite superhero movie after The Dark Knight. So much about this movie is amazing: the action scenes are to the point, yet fun to watch. I actually struggle with which one I like more: the one with the jet, or Dash's run across Nomanisan Island. The characters are also uniquely powered to their roles, and the running commentary on superheroes is so relevant now that it's actually scary. And the music is some of Michael Giacchino's best work, which is interesting considering this was his first film score.

By the way, track down the short "Jack-Jack Attack" if you can. It's just as great a short film as The Incredibles is a movie.

Ah man, “Jack-Jack Attack!” There’s something from my childhood. Yeah, like I said, this movie has gotten more relevant over time. This movie, since you’ve been mentioning it for others, is insanely quotable. It has some very sharply written dialogue.

"BEHOLD, THE UNDERMINER! I AM BENEATH YOU, BUT NOTHING IS BENEATH ME!" I love The Underminer so damn much!

“WHERE IS MY SUPER SUIT?”

"PUT A FIELD AROUND US NOW!" I can do this forever, but...

I actually wish I'd seen this in theatres, since I get the feeling that the audience would've clapped at the end. But we were in the process of moving at the time, so...

Yeah, I’d definitely trade seeing Incredibles 2 in theaters for the first one.

I will die on my hill and proclaim that both are good movies, but whatever. What's your #4?

My #4 is Up


This movie has one of the best openings in any movie ever. Period. Beyond the first 20 minutes, Up is a great adventure movie about an old man learning to overcome grief through connecting with youth. It’s whimsical, well directed, well animated, phenomenally acted, funny, and seeing Mr. Fredricksen find his zest for life again is nothing short of triumphant. He is a phenomenally realized protagonist, and I thought the way he learned to let go of his pain is an incredibly poignant story and a very important life lesson.


Up is a really sad movie, isn't it? But I actually thought the scrapbook scene in the third-act was more heartbreaking than the opening (the opening is still a killer, though. Especially since I still have two living grandparents on my mom's side.) I also like how the movie indicates the passage of time. Check out Carl's facial hair, man!

I also like how they visually indicate his change of heart through him shedding his stuffy brown suit as the film progresses.

And his posture improves! So many great minutiae that take multiple viewings to appreciate.

And of course, who could forget Dug?

Definitely! Best boy ever!

And now we get to the top 3. I'm sure everyone's excited. I know I am!

As am I! My #3 pick goes to: Toy Story 4



I haven’t had enough time with this movie to decide if it’s as great as its predecessors on its own merits, but I’m putting it here because I think it represents what makes all of the Toy Story movies so great. I’m feeling like a broken record, but it takes small ideas from older movies and breathes life into them in a way that feels like a natural progression of the series’ themes. We’ve asked before if a toy without a child is any better than trash, so why don’t we make a movie where a child makes a toy out of trash? We’ve established that Woody doesn’t understand how a toy could live without a child, so let’s make a movie where his understanding of that relationship is pushed to his limit?

It is incredibly rare for a series of four films to have such narrative cohesion, and Toy Story 4 really does feel like the perfect, bittersweet ending to this wonderful animated saga, so it gets my number three spot.

It’s also gut-bustingly funny. By far the funniest Toy Story movie in my opinion, actually. Bo Peep is delightful, Combat Carl from the shorts gets a cameo, Duke Caboom is full of great one liners, hell, even the Bensons turn out to be misunderstood sweethearts. That is to say nothing of Key and Peele’s contributions, and of course, the heart and soul of this movie, Forky.

This movie has heart. Unlike Toy Story 3, it manages to stay warm and cozy while it explores its themes. It’s soft...I guess you could call it, my trash!


I remember once seeing a video on YouTube that mentioned that Woody's entire arc in these movies could be summed up in a single speech in the first movie. It makes a lot of sense that, after everything that Woody's gone through in the previous movies, the natural progression is him learning to move on from having an owner. The ending becomes that much more bittersweet because of it.

Also, did you pick up on the motifs from the franchise being played together in the closing scene? Because I did, and it was a kick to the heart.

Oh God, that closing scene.

If there was ever a Pixar moment on-par with the ending to Grave of the Fireflies in sheer, raw emotion, that was it. I also like how the antagonist is a misunderstood and neglected doll who finally gets her overdue love at the end. That was a nice subversion of Pixar's biggest shortcoming: the twist-villain.

Yeah, I was really happy to have an actual antagonist. I miss good movie villains, man. I really appreciated how Gabby Gabby and the dummies were designed to be unnerving at the beginning, but easily transitioned to cute once you got to know them. Speaking of unnerving things that get progressively cuter, there were oodles of cameos from some of Pixar’s oldest shorts.

Yes, like Tinny.

Tinny!

It was nice to see him again in beautiful, photorealistic 4K.

He’s aged magnificently. I wonder what his secret is…

The last thing I feel I have to talk about in depth here would be Ducky and Bunny. I thought they were going to be a lot less funny than they were, despite being an avid fan of Key and Peele. I didn’t expect the writing to utilize their comedic timing so well. The scene that really won me over was the key sequence. They just play so well off of Buzz, who was also great in this movie.


Let's not forget The Plush Rush montage. Easily an example of dark comedy.

The comedy in this film relied a lot on subversion of expectation, and it’s a testament to the film makers that the montage kept me guessing.

Yeah! The final bit in that montage had me rolling. I’m also a sucker for drawn out gags, so...


The end credits got my entire theatre in an uproar of laughter. Especially with Keanu Reeves's best "whoah" in his entire career.

He really Canada...

My #3 goes to Up, a movie I actually appreciate more with each subsequent viewing.


It says a lot when a movie this unbelievably silly gets me to cry three times: twice in the "Married Life" montage, and once when Carl rummages through Ellie's old scrapbook. But while "grumpy old man ties balloons to his house and floats to South America" is a ludicrous premise for a film, and the movie's definitely ludicrous, Up's actually a very sad movie when you stop and think on it. Not that you think about that often, since this movie makes an alpha dog's voice sound like a chipmunk.

Also, I kinda like how the film's villain is a crusty old man consumed by desire. Ignoring how he's a perfect foil to Carl, Charles Muntz's advanced age also subverts the notion that old people are harmless. He also plays off well against Carl with all the geriatric jokes in the climactic battle. He and Ernesto de la Cruz are classic examples of "never meet your heroes".

In life, or in death, apparently. Up is definitely a movie about the subtle things. The plot is incredibly thin, but the character writing and animation are phenomenal. I don’t actually have all that much to say about this movie, because I don’t actually think there’s all that much to say. All the little things we’ve talked about are just really, really good. The whole film is just good.

I think what holds this one down a bit is how silly it is. I'm not normally a big fan of MacGuffin chase movies, I find them bizarre and silly as hell, but somehow the charm of this one surpasses that. Still, a lot of the plot points definitely feel a little weird and contrived (an alpha bird AND a talking dog?)

Yeah, not to mention Charles Muntz being alive to begin with. For as much depth as there is to some of the film’s elements, there are others you can’t think very hard about without them falling apart.

Still, I love Carl and Russell's relationship. That's cute. (Speaking of, is Pixar psychic to have predicted Disney's eventual buy-out of Lucasfilm in 2009? There's an overt Star Wars reference in the credits.)

Yeah, I really liked Russell as well. He’s a great foil to Carl and really helps give this movie some of its great, wholesome energy. I don’t actually think this movie is all that sad. I think it’s real. I have a much easier time watching this movie for fun than say the second or third Toy Storys. Carl’s feeling listless is kind of endemic to the human experience. Seeing him work through it is very relatable.

I guess.

My #2 is one you put much lower, but it's actually grown on me with each subsequent viewing.


Inside Out is the kind of movie I wish existed when I was younger. It not only tackles emotions in an easy-to-understand way, which is hard to do, but it also tackles the relationship we have with sadness as a concept. Joy's a lot like Woody, in that she's nasty, but not for malicious reasons. She thinks Sadness genuinely harms Riley, so she gaslights her whenever she thinks Sadness is out of line. This also forces Sadness to feel useless, and I'd even argue that it's Joy's fault that everything goes wrong in the movie. She's the one who learns the lesson here.

Outside of that, I love this world. Everything from abstract thoughts being a furnace, to discarded memories being thrown in a literal dump, it all meshes excellently. This was the film that instantly excited me when it was announced in the early-2010's, and I'm happy we got it.

Also, Bing Bong's death is one of the most heartbreaking goodbyes ever. I've had imaginary friends growing up, and him fading away routinely makes me cry.

I don’t know, man. Inside Out was a movie I really enjoyed in my first viewing, and liked progressively less over time. There are a lot of fun visual gags about the world, like, for example, the furnace, but for whatever reason this movie doesn’t really click with me. Maybe it’s because of some of my personal experiences with manipulation that I find what Joy does to be pretty gross and not really forgivable by the end of the film. All the emotions in everyone’s heads are actually really mean. It also reinforces some pretty lame gender stereotypes and relies a lot on leveraging Riley’s stature as a child for emotional weight.

The dialogue between Riley and her parents is about half and half for me. Some of it’s really wonderful and real, and half feels less like how a family would interact and more how adults making a movie think a family would interact. It’s frustrating because I know the folks at Pixar can and have done better.


I find that people are often split on this one, with some loving it and others thinking it manipulative. I know, for a fact, that two reviewers on YouTube were absolutely savage when they reviewed it, even though I don't like either of their reviewing styles. But speaking as someone with Autism who moved when he was 14, I found a lot of this to be quite relatable. I really like Riley as a character, too.

At the very least, the idea alone is interesting. You have to acknowledge that, right?

I mean, definitely, but that doesn’t necessarily affect any of my criticisms.

I suppose. Especially since I'll probably be critical of your next two picks as well.

It’s funny, for a movie about emotions I really feel, grossly indifferent towards this film.

Oh, you’re not going to agree with me at all. There are only two films I haven’t mentioned and you put them much, much lower.

Speaking of...my #2 pick: WALL-E. The first movie to give me genuine anxiety about climate change! 




WALL-E is great. The animation was cutting edge in its day and it still holds up on a technical level as well as an artistic one. This movie can out during a devastating global recession and a heated (if misguided) debate about whether climate change was even real and delivered scathing criticisms of the controlling nature of capitalist society, its disregard for the environment, and the importance of human connection; all while balancing its B and C plots with an adorable robot love story told almost entirely without words for more than half the movie. Films like these from major studios beholden to investors are incredibly rare and really give you a sense of creative passion.

It also strikes a great balance between realism and the surreal, which was no small-feat in and of itself. And then, on top of all that, this movie inadvertently encouraged civil disobedience in the name of environmental action, which was a very spicy take at the time. This movie is leagues beyond its contemporaries (cough, Avatar) in pretty much every way and I don’t see that changing any time soon.


Geez, what is it with people dunking on Avatar? It's been 11 years almost, and the movie wasn't even that bad.

I guess I also wouldn't be so hard on WALL-E if the individual story threads weaved together better. That, and Princess Mononoke is the better environmental story on film. But that's for another time...

Oh, I’ll dunk on Avatar like I’m playing NBA Jam. Never liked that one.

#NotAnOriginalSentiment

#NotAnIncorrectSentiment

ANYWAY, WALL-E is also a pretty damn funny movie. For as much as you’ve harped on slapstick, it really, really works here.


I should clarify that I do still like the movie, I just think it's not as great as everyone's said.

Which is fair. I just happen to love this movie.

Now here’s one I knew we’d disagree on from the moment you dropped me a line. My favorite Pixar movie and #1 pick is: Ratatouille.




My morbid curiosity has kicked in.

“My curiosity has kicked in,” fixed that for you, and good!

I have never not loved Ratatouille, it’s very difficult to put my finger on, but ever since I saw it in theaters I’ve thought “wow, that movie was really fun.” It’s also probably my favorite Brad Bird movie. This film is absolutely not as complex or as poignant as other Pixar offerings, but it definitely has its moments. (The trap store scene comes to mind.) This movie is a movie that lives and dies by its characters, it’s wonderful, wonderful characters. Linguini is great, Colette is great, Remy is great, his colony, also great, the entire kitchen staff? Also great; and then we have the man, the myth, the legend: Skinner.

Skinner is, as we’ve established, a rarity as one of Pixar’s only non-twist antagonists. He’s hostile from the get go, and every time he’s on screen he shows his penchant for chewing scenery like it’s some of the deliciously animated food. Skinner grounds the absurd premise of the film by being driven mad by how unbelievable him telling the truth sounds. This is a movie with, not a car chase, not a motorcycle chase, but a moped/bike chase after a rat who’s carrying the legal documents to a disgraced French restaurant. I hadn’t seen anything like this film before I saw it and haven’t since. The animation and art is also glorious and this film never fails to make me hungry. This is all, of course, before we even get to discussing Ego, who is an absolutely horrifying force of nature for our scrappy protagonists to overcome.

Is this movie perfect? Absolutely not. You’re right about the kiss scene, it does have some icky implications, Gusteau’s death is poorly justified, and French culture has surprisingly little to do with the film set in France, but I think all of that is overshadowed by this film’s larger message.

This movie is a movie that uses the food industry to dismantle the art establishment. The saying “anyone can cook,” as well as Ego’s arc later in the movie, absolutely demolish the classist distinction of what is and is not “high art” based upon how something was made or where it came from, which is something you don’t ever really see coming from mainstream media, like ever.


I know a few people who don't like Ratatouille who've admitted to me that Ego's speech is its saving grace. That's powerful.

It really is, simply, my favorite Pixar film. As this movie fights to establish, objectivity doesn’t really exist in art and emotionally important experiences can come from anywhere, and this one is a source of mine. And as such, it gets my number one spot.

I guess I'd also be more-partial to the film if Linguini weren't such a "seen it before" character. But I guess the focus is more on Remy, who doesn't even have a French accent.

Yes, but Remy is a literal rat. He is also Patton Oswalt. Do you not like Patton Oswalt?

He had to grow on me, honestly. I didn't like him for the longest time, back when I was a conservative. But I still think that everyone in that movie should've been consistent and had a French accent.

I also remember hearing that Ratatouille had a last-minute director change because it wasn't going well. It's the only one that still works, but smells of rewrites.

But then we wouldn’t have Lou Romano’s dorky performance as Linguini or Peter O’Toole’s dulcet baritones.

If Ian Holm can pull off a French accent, then the late-Peter O'Toole could've as well. Especially since British people are better at that than we are.

Anyway, we've drawn this out long enough. Time to take it home with my #1 pick.

Take it away.

Certainly.

My #1 pick comes from a far-off land, one where the caravans roam and-I'm kidding, it's Toy Story 3.


I had an inkling.

I was skeptical of this movie in the years leading up to its release. I knew it'd happen eventually, but would it be good? So many trilogies live or die by their final entries, so I was legitimately afraid that this'd fall flat. I guess its multiple Oscar nominations, including Best Picture, were proof enough that my doubts were misplaced.

What a ride this is! Right from its fake-out opening, which could've been a movie on its own, there's a non-stop assault on my emotions here. The garbage fake-out in the first-act alone almost made my heart stop, and it only gets more intense. Screw a Pixar movie, this is a prison break-out movie, and the iconography is present everywhere. Oh, and if that wasn't bad enough, there was also that furnace scene. My God, that furnace scene! 10 years later, I still get chills when I see it!

And then there's that controversial passing of the torch moment with Andy Davis and Bonnie. I know some fans have been turned off by how Andy feels like an old man here, but I think semantics like that miss the point: Andy's not only given a full character-arc here, but he's the sentimental type. And even as someone who was in university at the time, the "leaving the home" aspect really got to me (speaking of which, the moment where Andy's mom looks at his empty room and breaks down has been noted to make parents cry.) So I don't think that scene is cheap and forced at all.

If I have one complaint, it's Lotso. He's a good villain, complete with a compellingly tragic backstory, but his comeuppance feels cheap. It's like the writers just gave up when they decided to have him be strapped to a garbage truck. Seriously, you couldn't have been more creative?!

Whatever, it's a great movie. Easily my favourite of the franchise, and of Pixar's resume.

I could definitely see a case being made for Toy Story 3 being better than Toy Story 4, even for it being Pixar’s best movie. I guess you could compare my feelings for putting Toy Story 4 so high on my list to the reasoning behind giving Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King Best Picture. It has less to do with that specific film, and more for the outstanding achievement in serialized storytelling.

We spoke at length about Toy Story 3 earlier, so I’m not sure I have much more to add I haven’t already said.


I know it's not fair to pick on a dead man here, but I'm still bitter over Roger Ebert's 3-star review of this movie. Not because he's "wrong", but because I think that he misread the movie because he never had children himself.

Roger Ebert misread a lot of things, but I won’t open up that can of worms here.

To be fair, he's never written a review I can't at least understand.

Anyway, thanks to JHawk99 once more for sticking it out over this massive collaboration piece. And thanks to all of you for sticking by and reading it. Any last words before we go?

Yeah! Follow me on twitter @g1_JHawk99 for art, poetry, and my insufferable personality. Wear a mask, wash your hands, and don’t be a selfish prick. Stay home!

Wait, you write poetry?

I do! I’m a spoken word poet. I’m currently working on my writing socials, more information to come on my Twitter. I was actually working on writing an album before COVID separated me from my producer and stalled my progress.

To be fair, that virus has caused a lot of people misery...

Yes. Please, dear viewers, see the above statement. Assuming you’re in The U.S., like me, our country is botching its response. We are not ready to reopen. If you have the option to stay home, check out some of the 22 movies we talked about instead of going out! I thank you on behalf of your communities in advance.

Apologies, and thanks to my gracious host, Whitly. I’ll put my soapbox away now.


It's okay, I don't think many people would dispute that.

Anyway, you all know where to find me. Hopefully this won't take too long to edit, even if it was fun. But until then, stay safe, and I'll see you next time!

See you in another four years!

Hopefully sooner!


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